On March 6, 2025, California Governor Gavin Newsom launched his podcast, “This Is Gavin Newsom,” with conservative activist Charlie Kirk as his first guest. Known for his long-standing support of LGBTQ+ rights, Newsom stunned many by aligning with Kirk on the contentious issue of transgender athletes in women’s sports. During their hour-long discussion, Kirk pressed Newsom on fairness, citing a transgender high school athlete’s dominance in California track events. Newsom responded, “I think it’s an issue of fairness… it’s deeply unfair,” breaking from the Democratic Party’s typical stance. He acknowledged the political damage this issue has inflicted on Democrats, admitting, “We’re getting crushed on it,” and credited conservatives for effectively highlighting it. While expressing sympathy for transgender struggles, noting their higher rates of suicide and depression, Newsom’s shift sparked backlash from progressives and LGBTQ+ advocates, who called it a betrayal. The meeting, intended to bridge political divides, instead exposed a rift within Newsom’s party as he eyes a potential 2028 presidential run. Kirk, a Trump ally, hailed the exchange as a win for conservative messaging, while Newsom’s comments signal a pragmatic pivot, starting with trans athletes, amid shifting public sentiment.
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