Aerospace developer Sir Charles Shults discussed his research into anomalies on Mars, notably what he believes to be fossils on the Martian surface. “What I have found is basically the remains of organisms that look like sea urchins. We’ve found some shark teeth, sea shells … everything is of a marine nature,” Shults said of his investigation into Mars rover data (see Martian Anomalies below). He theorized that the prevalence of sea life on Mars would be because the “ocean would function as a surrogate atmosphere” and protect life from the otherwise harsh Martian environment. Shults noted one specific type of anomaly that has come up repeatedly in his research: oddly shaped objects “like rinds … imagine cutting an avacado in sections and pulling the seed out of the middle.” He suggested that these objects are the fossils of animals called blastoids. “These organisms left their remains, apparently, all over the planet,” Shults mused. While he expressed “no doubt” that there was once life on Mars, he was skeptical that it was intelligent life, “in my opinion, anything native to Mars was probably no smarter than a shark or a squid.” Joining the conversation during the third hour, Richard C. Hoagland talked with Shults about NASA’s failure to address these anomalies. Hoagland asserted that this is a deliberate act of concealment, saying “I’m of the school that they’re as clever as all get out and that they do not mean to ever tell us the truth.” While they agreed that …